----------------------------------- fuzzy Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:11 pm ----------------------------------- just to be more specific.. this is my question. if i take 20 similar trades with similar risk (2pt signal bar) and i assume they all have a 60% chance of working then i would expect to win 12, lose 8. if risk was 2 pts i would gross +8 pts. but if i scalp out of say 6 of my winners with 1 pt because they only pulled back 2 ticks and then shot in my direction then i gross 2 pts (6-1pt, 6 -2pt, and 8-2pt losers) and add in 5 dollars commision per contract and now you are break even. What if two of the eight 2pt loser actually allow you to scalp out for 1pt before hitting the -2pt stop? Now you have 8 trades for +1pt, 6 trades for +2pt, 6 trades for -2pt. Total = 8x1 + 6x2 - 6x2 = 8 pts.